DUST Search - Ramblings about sidearms and stuff

Her Chosen wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:

1) Moodys review of BP
2) FERRO had slightly more armor to each tier ( gal scout with maxed armor, one basic ferro would put me at 201 armor which im vary happy with
3) You mean the rifles tyat melt you while your in others optimal?
4) Assault IMHO, longer range, higher DPS, less damage, Breach, higher damage, shorter range, regular variant, middleman. See my POV?
5) Agreed no idea how to tweak it.
6) Reduced kick would be good, link ke to those threads sorry if as i said, i dont feel well most of the time

1) I don't watch moody, he doesn't play anymore and plenty of it is opinion pieces. It was numerically demonstrated that the .

No, it was actually balanced because its SECONDARY weapon. Sorry, but 2nd weapons should not be on par with primaries. Other sidearms need to be nerfed on par with the original Bolt. The magsec right now is a good example. It/'s not UP, its just a balanced 2nd weapon.

The fact that the bolt pistol , a secondary weapon, is in the top 3 weapons total in the game is poor logic. Scrambler Rifle, Assault Rail Rifle, and Bolt Pistols are the best handheld weapon in the game, that also includes the HMG. What the heck is a sidearm doing in that high of a rank?


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Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 650	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:53:00 - [1] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Also Mina, i was here since about 1.4. I barely remember 1.6, but i remember being more AV focused so i didn't realize if it was OP or not. I remember briefly some threads about sidearm dominating primarys i just thought people were complaining. As i do now. i got better. Anyone who thinks sidearms dominate primaries is doing you a favor, its like waving a flag around that says they have no idea what they are talking about. Even pre-nerf bolt pistols are trash compared to any rifle weapon. My sidearm opinions: Bolt pistol is fine. SMGs are fine (but the breach is clearly better than the other two versions and that should be tweaked a bit so they each have a role, it seems like breach/assault/normal SMGs have no real design philosophy behind them like the breach/assault/tac/burst rifles do) Scrambler pistols need to be buffed a bit, I'd say increase body shot damage ~5-10% (depending on version this should be slightly higher or lower) and decrease headshot modifier to retain same headshot damage, also the iron sight on the scrambler pistols are completely moronic, I have no idea where the thing is actually aiming. Nova knives are fine. MagSec needs to be buffed or given some niche if its ever going to compete with the SMG, I would suggest making it silenced and giving it virtually no kick/dispersion in ADS, right now I think the worst problems are the kick buildup, which gets out of hand quickly and makes the weapon unmanageable compared to the SMG. Flaylock is fine, which I know is far from a universal opinion, they can dump out a ton of damage in a very short amount of time, but are situationally useless because of the nature of the weapon, overall I think its balanced. Ion pistols need to be reworked (range increase coupled with slight charge mechanic rework). P.S. Also scrambler pistols need to have assault/normal/burst/breach version at all levels, std/adv/proto, and the viziam scambler pistol should not require level 1 proficiency to use, what the **** is going on here?
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 650	Posted - 2015.05.04 17:28:00 - [2] - Quote Her Chosen wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: 1) Moodys review of BP 2) FERRO had slightly more armor to each tier ( gal scout with maxed armor, one basic ferro would put me at 201 armor which im vary happy with 3) You mean the rifles tyat melt you while your in others optimal? 4) Assault IMHO, longer range, higher DPS, less damage, Breach, higher damage, shorter range, regular variant, middleman. See my POV? 5) Agreed no idea how to tweak it. 6) Reduced kick would be good, link ke to those threads sorry if as i said, i dont feel well most of the time 1) I don't watch moody, he doesn't play anymore and plenty of it is opinion pieces. It was numerically demonstrated that the . No, it was actually balanced because its SECONDARY weapon. Sorry, but 2nd weapons should not be on par with primaries. Other sidearms need to be nerfed on par with the original Bolt. The magsec right now is a good example. It/'s not UP, its just a balanced 2nd weapon. The fact that the bolt pistol , a secondary weapon, is in the top 3 weapons total in the game is poor logic. Scrambler Rifle, Assault Rail Rifle, and Bolt Pistols are the best handheld weapon in the game, that also includes the HMG. What the heck is a sidearm doing in that high of a rank? Wave that flag.